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said he was not the corporate secretary, we provided documentation that was the official record of hunter biden's paying he is in the corporate secretary and you signed it with his signature. that is just for one is that clear, away and lie. the other ones that are but he has heard about the whatsapp messages, and seated right here next to my father waiting for your response, try to shake chinese business associate will in fact, we want a farther and continued to look at all of the before and after whatsapp messages and is thought that it clearly leads to hunter biden's lying. >> chairman jason smith, speaking for joining us live on this latebreaking news, we appreciate your time. >> clearly something we will continue to follow. >> absolutely. thank you for joining us. >> always nice to spend time with you. particular in the middle of the week, looking forward to that long weekend. "the story" starts reino. [ ♪♪ ] >> martha: good afternoon

everybody, and martha maccallum and this is "the story". breaking right now, in the white house says that a president biden does not back unilateral recognition of a palestinian state after a vow from a three of our allies that they will do exactly that. this is a huge development today, and one that benjamin netanyahu says rewards tear. so we will be covering that today -- terror. and a couple of other really big security stories that we are covering for you right now. also the white house defending president biden's latest round of enormous debt forgiveness for people who have student loans. canceling more than $7 billion more on top of the pride programs today, again as student debt. that brings the total to $167 billion, or almost 5 million bolivars. republicans of calls this move

reckless, and that it makes taxpayers pick up the tab for others who have not paid their debts. here is the white house and back and forth, just moments ago, watch this. >> we have been very clear about the student loan system needs to be fixed, the president is trying to do that and fix it in a way where people are not feeling that crushing financial burden that of the have to deal with when they leave college. >> it does administration thing that student loan debt consolation can contribute to inflation? >> at what we believe as student debt cancelation gives an opportunity for americans to start a life, to buy house, to start a family. that adds to the economy. >> martha: okay let's bring in sharks tank a kevin o'leary, chairman of o'leary ventures. kevin always great to have you with us. you heard that question, just

moments ago at the white house, what is your reaction to this huge debt forgiveness for student loans holders kmiec. >> i am a taxpayer, out like this. i don't think it is fair. it is un-american in a sense that there are many people who have already paid back their student loans and cohorts in the past, those are the future that still may not get those. people that never got to go to college because they figured they could not afford it, it is so unfair. number 2. there is no way this is not inflationary, this is free money from a helicopter when we are trying to tame inflation, this makes it worse. number 3 of this is motivated politically to buy votes does not work. this cohort in the late twenties and early thirties, they have the propensity to vote the least. also think about the people who look at this and say it is unfair, and politically say i don't like this, and i'm an independent and this is the fourth time i think we had our forgiving cadet and i don't

understand why these people go to their debt paid back where nobody else did. and we teach everybody in america, you have to pay back your debt but not you, 5 million people for the first time ever gimmick may be the last? you 5 million you're off the hook gimmick why kmiec why is this fair and why will this make a lot of independent voters pretty unhappy like i am right now? >> martha: 13 percent of the population that has student debt and a study says that this program of debt forgiveness to about 750,000 individuals all told are earning an average of $312,000 a year, the people who are getting this relief. i just want to bring everybody back to this and get your thoughts on both of these things. members is elizabeth warren's soundbite with a voter to the round of president elections, watch. >> i saved all my money.

am i gonna get my money back u. >> of course not. >> and those of us who did the right thing get screwed gimmick. >> martha: that a man's as for a lot of folks, kevin kmiec. >> this is a very difficult pill to swallow for people borrowing of money and paying it back. particularly for those who do not understand why a selected group of individuals in a raegan history get a free ride. this is so un-american, it is so unfair, it is so inconsistent with the values we made people for over 100 years understand. try to teach this school responsibly in high school and what are we telling people now commit don't worry about it, borrow all the money you want for college, it is not -- it's free, you have to pay back. well wait a minute. give me back so many! somebody else puts up their hand at one free money! we are the people -- where is the money for the people who

paid their loans back? i hate this. i really, really, really hate this. >> martha: one more question before we go, we are five months away from an election. this puts money back and b. was pockets, yes another president is tapping in a huge way into the strategic petroleum reserve again and that is an effort to lower gas prices. won't all of that just put more money in it to the inflation fire? i guess they are figuring they won't get a rate cut between now and november anyway. >> know it does not help, no question. this maintains it. taming inflation this does not help at all but you cannot fix inflation and four months in three weeks, that will not work. we are well over 3 percent, there's a lot of other inflationary aspects gimmick the inflation reduction act has proven to be inflationary, williams and billions of dollars out of the helicopter for free. at that is all inflationary. you want to stop inflation? stop printing money. >> martha: could not say a better. kevin o'leary, thank you very much vermaak good to have you with us.

>> take care. >> martha: you as well. we are awaiting testimony from a former advisor to doctor anthony vouching. this is of a hot story, and it is breaking to this afternoon. house republicans have just released e-mails from doctor david moran's repeatedly urging his colleagues to correspond on back channels and even calls for secret accounts, e-mail accounts, in order to dodge their freedom of information act request which he said he got it all figured out, how to get around those u this is a huge blockbuster, wait until you see what is a knew these e-mails, moments from now. also had, our political panel weighs in on president biden's recent head scratching moments, watch... >> president biden: after i signed the act into law, i handed the pendant that i signed it, the most person responsible for the legislation be three

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>> president biden: marrying with the family of five or more daughters, i did. my wife is oldest of five sisters? you know why?

one of them will always love you. not the same one, one of them is always on your side. that is the biggest advantage of marrying five daughters. >> martha: okay,, no questions came out today at the white house briefing about president biden's recent string of unclear public comments including a weekend to speech at the event in detroit that was given nine corrections that were released by the white house on the transcript of the speech. they wanted to correct the record and all of these things because all of these speeches go in to their archives. the most recent one, 41 percent of voters think that of the current president has a mental soundness to serve another term and the former president, donald trump as i 50 percent on that measure. let's bring in tommy laren, and/or fox news contributor, senior analyst, great to have you with us gimmick that started

with you, do these things concern you? >> i mean it sure, look, the big think here martha is we have to watch candidates, both elderly men. and i think the american people all of our voters are saying we want somebody in the office that we can trust, has the ability for handling difficult matters. and it is concerning if you see somebody constantly slipping up. let me just say, i don't think it is a one-sided equation, as he saw from the pole, it is a 40 plus percent who also think that there is some issues with former president trump and over the weekend to his speech at of the nra he stopped speaking for 30 seconds and people wondered what he is going on there. just recently he was on tv and a local market and asked about contraception and said oh, yeah,, we are thinking about doing away with that as well, with the abortion, then wept,

have to go back and correct no i did not mean that. these things happen with two elderly people. >> martha: tell me, clay travis was on yesterday and here's what he had to say about the debate and the role he thinks it can play and what ends up happening in november. watch... >> was a debate set for june 27th, it appeals to me like that is joe biden's opportunity and maybe also the danger for him to prove that he deserves to be the standardbearer. it his ache a final exam of sorts for joe biden. >> martha: he says you does not a thing that biden will end up being the candidate, he's in a very diminished, increasingly small group. what do you think about that decision to do a very early debate in light of all this other stuff i'll mikamac. >> think clay travis is right. and he that is exactly why that debate is so early, is one last chance for president biden to prove he can stand are sit for 90 minutes and he can compete.

i have long held for almost what wires that joe biden will not be the nominee, democrats cannot take the chance with joe biden. is bad enough they try to hide him during that campaign, the really wobbly megan people to elect this guy for another 55 years when his capacities have diminished over the last year and a half substantially. and another democrats want to say donald trump as old as well, and they try to nitpick certain situations where they can point to be him having an elderly moment or two, what it is nothing like we are single from joe biden. he is at miss remembering things, he's making a blatant lies about inflation, about being the vice president during the pandemic. this is really concerning for our national security. i think the democrats can take this risk with joe and i think he would have been out a long time ago when they await about what to do with vice president harris, that is the last cog in this machine they have to figure out. >> martha: running out of options of those pointmac on his of you today, watch this...

>> of the reality is both candidates are trash. president biden, feels like he is pretty [ bleep ] up. >> help him out! >> help him out? >> martha: help him out, help him out. what are you saying? >> i think you know what, she is right. his base is pretty angry with him and part of it of course has to do with standing by israel, even as with of the and others have started to peel away. but especially younger people in the democratic base are not happy about the way that biden has handled the situation. i think that's why the poles or as close as they are, once as people come home i think he will be okay. >> martha: all right, thank you very much, great to see you both. all right, a shifting dynamic in the middle east as thousands of morning the butcher of tehran and hamas cheers u.s. allies who vowed to now recognize a palestinian state,

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>> martha: chance of death to america, death to israel out of the funeral for iran's president and others who were killed in a helicopter crash over the weekend, we put the translation on the screen, watch those.

>> martha: can you be more clear than that, among the mourners, the hamas leader, there he is. hugging the -- meeting with the supreme leader of iran at this moment, general jack king is standing by what it means for our national security but for his deceit -- senior one minister reporting live from london, hello soon yes, it really will orchestrate a show of grief in toronto, ebrahim raisi, the caskets of the late iranian president, in the country's foreign minister and others killed in that weekend a chopper crash. among others in attendance along with non-western international figures, officials from hamas and hezbollah no doubt helping to prop those anti- you as an anti- israel chance, and tens of thousands parading the streets of iran. the president via their mobile

phones, according to one analyst very in depth that organizing funerals. the bodies of further breeders through the crowds at the back of the truck, a hardliner considered a possible successor to the 85-year-old, that is now up in the air as elections for a new irani president are set for the end of next month. those are expected to be well staged, to round juggles original proxy wars and to have domestic issues back at some noted the turnout was less than passed funerals, at least a segment of irani in public sending as silent signal of dissatisfaction. >> martha: thank you very much u with that we bring in a retired forza general, former army vise chief of staff no chairman for the institute of the study of war and fox news strategic analyst. thank you for being here. let's put this up on the screen, the other individuals who were

added this very high-level funeral, you have the hezbollah deputy secretary general, ismail haniyeh and the kusie military spokesperson all in attendance here. your thoughts and what we are seeing play out? -- houthi. >> solie the right to honor some to who was a leader, but he is quite despicable having been committed genocide through most of his lifetime, and the fact that we have american leaders standing up and offering condolences and standing up in silence i think is pretty despicable to be quite frank. i wish we had of the kind of moral clarity you need to be able to differentiate between these brutal, barbaric killers and people who are trying to protect the people using obvious that's like protecting democracy with the appropriate military

means. what's happening here martha's of the audience gets it. the presidential change, they will really be no change whatsoever in iran because the supreme leader makes the policies, and he makes all the strategic decisions. what will continue is largely the pressure at home and abroad, iran will continue to sponsor the war against israel, he will continue their objectives to be a nuclear power, they will continue to support russia and they will partner with china and north korea. that is the reality of it, no change here, a little unsettling for them, as you pointed out and so did greg, it was a potential successor to the supreme leader and probably the most likely. now they have to find somebody else.

that is not going to be dramatic in the sense of policy inside of iran. it will continue as i stated. >> martha: we know russia also sent a representative, here's a moment at the united nations revenue but he stood for of silence including the united states deputy ambassador to the un, watch... >> now observing silence, in remembrance of the loss of life, of the president of the islamic republic of iran, ebrahim raisi. >> martha: then you see everybody standing up there, there is robert wood, the u.s. represented of. just thinking what our reformer un ambassador nikki haley, it is hard to imagine her standing up for the person who was known in this country as the butcher of toronto. >> i probably would have walked out of the room frankly.

so the audience understands, the late eighties, they called him the butcher of tehran because you executed thousands of people for doing what? just for being dissidents guy just for disagreeing with the policies of the regime. since 2022, when he was in prison for wearing high g. but not the right away and showing some hit and she died as a result of it, this guy put 20,000 people in jail and executed a 500 and just the last few months, he has hunger scores of people by cranes and a strangled with them, hanging them by cranes and some of them teenagers for what? for being dissidents. it's a disgrace to honor anybody who is doing something like that to their own people. >> martha: 1979, of course,, they have an ion grip on it keeping people to behave the way they want them to under this and anybody who has stubs out of line could end up on the other

end of a crane is a point out. i want to ask you one other thing, this is benjamin netanyahu's reaction to the fact that spain and ireland are going to be recognizing a palestinian state. watch this. it's one of the intention of several european countries to recognize a palestinian state as a reward for terrorism. reporting terrorism and rewarding terrorism will not bring peace or help us defeat hamas. >> martha: your reaction? >> song. this is some aspirational and symbolic, solie fact that the european nations matter to us a bit more, is about 140 nations are there who have taken the same. [ please stand by ] of the issue here is that people in is will don't want to have a two state solution, is that they know full well right now the palestinians in the west bank

were supporting the operations that hamas took. how do we know that, the surveys tell us that, the barbaric information, if abode was taken in the west bank today, should a palestinian authority form government, hamas a winds that is why benjamin netanyahu is opposed, they cannot move in that direction right now given the conditions on the ground. >> martha: thank you very much, always good to talk to you soon great talking to you. still ahead, on the republican battle to counter democrats in terms of voter outreach and getting out the vote. new insights and all of that when we come back!

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after he exposed the -- of the explosive release of a dozens of his e-mails but house republicans into them. doctor david moran's who is associated with the dr fauci and francis college urges repeatedly other people on the e-mail chain to use their personal e-mail accounts as a way to avoid blowback from the freedom of information act. one message radiomac the best way to avoid the freedom of information act, hassles, is to delete all of your e-mails when you learn a subject is getting sensitive ". let's listen in. right there at the table, let's watch a little bit of this. >> on his personal e-mail accounts, which he had been using to communicate with other officials, and doctor peter. government officials hiding from we the people is not the american way. the selected subcommittee

proceeded to conduct an extensive review of the communications and documents produced under subpoena by doctor morris. the information contained at least 30,000 pages of e-mails, are deeply concerning and in my opinion reflects poorly upon doctor warrens and the office of that national institute of allergy and infectious disease under doctor fauci's leadership and doctor francis collins unfortunately. today we release the staff memo outlining to the evidence gathered. you have evidence that dr warrens purposely invaded public transparency required by the freedom of information act by intentionally using a personal e-mail account for official business. we have evidence that he unlawfully deleted government records and may have engaged with the nih of, foia office to assist in it this legal action.

we have evidence at he routinely acted as an intermediary between doctor fauci. and we have evidence that he took affirmative steps to assist him so he could have his grants rain stated after it was suspended under the trump administration and approved by leadership. doctor morens's it's unfortunate it seems that you are not truthful in your interview with us, during that interview you may not have been under oath however you are reminded by selected subcommittee counsel, against criminal resolution for title 18, section 1001 u in other words, that into be before as would be a crime. when asked if you understood that requirement he said he did.

we need to find out what the truth lies pay! 's and your testimony are is it in your e-mails? we received had the president of the equal hells alliance before the committee for a hearing and we produced an extensive report outlining the wrongdoing and fat different bad faith actions taken by equal hells in its present. after investigative measures took place, nih it recommended that eco health be medially barred from receiving federal dollars . he provided information including comment occasions about eco health recurring at the highest levels. this is not just a one-way streak. we also found that dr morens's disseminated information from eco health on behalf of eco health, to top nih officials. in fact we even uncovered an e-mail from doctor morens's

asking if he would get a kickback after the eco health grant was reinstated. after the funding to eco health was paused in 2020, doctor morens's advocated for them to have their federal funding reinstated, assisted eco health in receiving that finding, provided eco health with nonpublic information in order to help have that funding reinstated and then requested a kickback, joking what a kickback or not, the entire process is holy and acceptable payment and i wish it was the full extent but it is not. and frankly some of the documents we received from doctor morens's were difficult to read. i cannot imagine saying some of the things, let alone putting them in writing. disliked subcommittee uncovered comment occasions in which doctor morens's acted inappropriately and entirely and suitably for a member of the public health service, who receives a taxpayer-funded

paycheck. these are just some of the unfortunate professional findings disliked subcommittee has made during our investigation. it is very disturbing to witness this type of behavior from doctor fauci's senior advisor but the evidence is clear and overwhelming. doctor fauci's and i and id was unfortunately less pristine, including the media, which he had us all believe. doctor morens's, you reported directly to doctor livmac, serving as a senior advisor for more than 20 decades. did your boss know a lot of this behavior, did he condone it, the jetta stop what, that we do not know. but given the brats of this investigation we continue our work to make sure we sorely review each document produced, no stone will be left unturned, put it simply, doctor morens's you have a lot to answer for. the american people we represent

deserve honest answers. we all do. today, i hope that we can further our request for information and for the government's response to covid-19 and provided the american people with honest answers about the actions taken by personnel as a national institute of health during this time, especially at the leadership levels. doctor morens's you will be sworn in today and your answers will be under oath and i strongly suggest you tell the truth which i am sure i don't have to advise you on that. i will remind you, you were testifying today under a subpoena, the terms of the subpoena require you to stay until the chair excuses you. i look forward to look forward to a robust discussion today. thank you, now i would like to recognize my member for the purpose of making an opening statement. >> thank you mr. chairman. for decades, our federal public health and scientific institutions have diligently upheld a legacy of respect and

decorum of the work to advance the public interest. within of these institutions, thousands upon thousands of federal employees have reported to work every day with the goal of providing -- ensuring every american can lead to the healthiest life's possible. as an emergency physician and public aldag is what, a hold a legacy of scientific advancement to safeguard human health in the highest regard, and through my tenure in congress, encoding is a member of the energy and commerce committee's health subcommittee, avenue championed legislation to invest in our federal, scientific and public health workforce so that they can carry forward this crucial work. but if there are times where individuals stray from this legacy and conduct themselves in a manner that is unbecoming over the thousands and thousands who strive to uphold the respect and

decency that is come to be known of our federal, scientific and public health workforce and leaders. today we will be hearing from one of these individuals. doctor morens's, for nearly a year the subcommittee has been reviewing you conduct. what we have found is deeply troubling to me. and internal documents that you produced to the selected subcommittee, you on multiple occasions alluded to the deletion of official e-mails, and knack that likely constitutes the destruction of federal records. and frequently you blurred the line between your official duties and your personal viewpoints neck encoding by communicating about official business on it your personal e-mail address with individuals had pending interest before your agency. and way representing yourself as a federal official under the signature of your personal e-mail correspondence. and while it is not a violation of the lot to do so, you disparaged other members of the scientific community with language that is unbecoming of a

representative of the federal government. what troubles me most about your conduct doctor morens's is the extent to which it is so willingly betrays decades of dedication, a diligence and a quorum from the thousands of federal scientists and public health workers who came before you, who have served alongside you, but who will serve on into the future. and that is why appropriate accountability for your actions is appropriate. it is not antiscience to hold you accountable for defining the public's trust and misusing official resources . to the contrary, taking your misconduct seriously is about ensuring that americans, myself included, can continue to expect the highest degree of professionalism from our premier scientific institutions as we have a sense of their inception. now with all that in mind, i

want to take a moment to make sure the record is clear on one thing at the offset of this hearing. accountability, for instances of misconduct is it essential for ensuring the public continues to trust our federal institutions and the use of taxpayer dollars, dr. morens testimony today is not a breakthrough moment, and naturally understanding the actual origins of the covid-19 pandemic. because the fact of the matter is because as of today the origins of the noble corona virus remain inconclusive. if the select subcommittee ones to actually shut alight normally and shows -- answers to these questions we had to take an objective look at all of the various pathways for which covid-19 would have emerge, via a lab or nature. now before we hear from the witness, let me just conclude was saying, it is my hope dr. morens that today you will offer some utility and remorse for your actions, which are estate

on the legacy of your colleagues and it through the federal government. at the same time, it is my hope that the members of this select subcommittee will be appropriate and cortical of your actions, will treaty with the same decency and respect that we expect -- expected of you as a federal employee and a steward of the public trust. lettuce model the same behavior here today that we have come to expect of our federal workforce. thank you and i yield back. >> is thank you purich our witness today is dr. morens, senior scientific advisor to the director of the national interest of allergy and infectious diseases, pursuant to kuwait on oversight and accountability rule nine g., the witness will stand and raised his right hand. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole

truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god? thank you. let the record show that the witness answered in the affirmative. the select subcommittee certainly appreciates you for being here today dr. morens and we do look forward to your testimony. dr. morens, pursuant to house rules and committee practice, witnesses appearing before this leg of subcommittee are given to the opportunity to give an initial presentation summarizing their testimony after opening statements by the chair and ranking member which we have just done. it is our understanding is for your counsel that you have declined to provide an opening statement? is that correct? okay. let the record reflect that the witness has declined the opportunity to provide an opening statement track opening statement, you will therefore proceed directly with member questions. i now recognize myself her questions. on genuine 18th is dr. morens you said were transcribed interview with us while not as

the -- throne -- sworn in, you were advised at title 18 section 18001 applied to that testimony and that if you made false statements, you go to be subject to criminal prosecution, do you recall that? your microphone is not on. >> do i keep it on her only when i talked to mexico and only when you're talking soon i remember -- i think what you were referring to is telling me that even though i was not under oath, i was bound to tell the truth, that we said? >> yes. and that you could be subject to corona prosecution. >> yes, he told without. >> eighty as today you are under oath and we will be comparing your statements today to those you gave previous ebmac the majority of my questions today will be simple yes or no questions. on april 21, 2021 you wrote, i can either send a stuff to tony

on his private e-mail or handed to him at work or at his house. did you ever send information related to covid-19 to doctor fauci's personal e-mail? >> i don't remember if i did, i may have but i certainly told him some things he asked me to tell him about the situation was peter. >> thank you. may 13th 2021, you wrote that you connected a reporter to doctor fauci via your secret back channel. what back channel did you have for doctor fauci u. >> well, all of these terms like secret back channel and the other one you mentioned, or just jokes. jokes that i made in dealing with peter because he was under death threats and was very depressed it was sort of the group of people that peter's

friends were trying to cheer up by making jokes and euphemisms that were not true. there was no back channel. the back channel was, you know, the back channel to tony was a same one that applies to everybody, and it may i say -- >> it which is what? >> while i will tell you. there is, tony does not want me to connect anybody to him directly. was one exception a couple of weeks ago, i never did, but in the bag channel was a regular channel within government or somebody wanted to talk to tony, i would tell them we have a regular process here, office of director am group, the inner circle, and the request to do something, talk to tony or whatever, would go to this group and they would meet in person with tony every morning and to

say, we got a message that so and so wants to talk to you or so-and-so wants to something from you. and he would decide, usually right there. i was never involved in that. at least not in recent years, a's to go to those meetings many years ago -- a. >> is at the channel you're referring to? sue and yes, it's not really a bag channel but i making starkey comments. >> it's a well-established textile function channel. i guess it is still functioning was only before i was put on administrative leave, that channel was still operating and it's the way things were done. >> that there was a connection you said in this statement down, you said there was a connection a couple of weeks ago that you did not do what was that? would i don't remember the details but i think it was somebody, maybe jerry who is a former nih institute director wanted to talk to tony. and i think is that something

like, because you used to be a director, he knows tony personally. and is that he can just talk to him directly, you don't have to go through me. >> in addition to your gmail, do you have a proton mail account? >> i do, yes. >> on genuine 18th you testified you do not conduct official business via personal e-mail. dr. morens did you ever conduct official business via your personal e-mail? >> i did not do anything that i thought was official business, i understand now that is some discrepancy between what i thought and what y'all may think about what his official business. ai back up tell you about this whole gmail thing since gmail versus nih e-mail and the others seemed to be the most important thing you're interested in and rightly so. i've had a gmail account for many years, and i don't know how long of how to the proton

account but for a while. i almost never use a proton account but i did use a gmail account? and also i should say, that going back to at least 2010 if not -- i'm sorry, going to back at least 2013 and possibly 2010, the, is that true, people in my instituted, put one icon on my government phone in which e-mails and gmail is a refused, that is to say i had a blue icon that said male, and if i got mail, every morning i would get up and open my gmail, fused and no one you refused but i did not think it was a problem because i can usually tell if the e-mail i was looking at was gmail or government male. and i also knew how to go into my phone and do a few clicks and

things if i needed to find out. or i could go to my gmail on the computer. we're there was no fusion. anyways is the longest standing get problem with the fusion -- >> dr. morens i will tell you, i can understand that. i have nonofficial e-mails on a separate phone that are fused or i can separated them but not my official ones, that is not account for telling people that you are doing official business with that they should contact do you on your gmail. >> and that's true -- is. >> and especially to avoid one-man and to be able to potentially delete things you don't want into that new york times which was your comment. january 18th he testified no when asked if you ever deleted anything from your official account that could be considered

a federal record, dr. morens are you aware of the destruction or attempted destruction of federal records carries a potential punishment of both imprisonment and a fine? >> i was not aware of that and i was not aware that anything at deleted like e-mails was a federal record, we have federal records training, periodically and the training that i recall we received defined as a federal record in a very different way then you may be thinking of, none of it as an e-mail. >> that may be something to look into, what your training looks like when it comes to federal records because it is far different from mine. on october 5th 2021, peter, i just got news that foia picked up an e-mail is sent you saying tony commented that he was brain-dead. i deleted that e-mail but i now learn that every e-mail i ever got a since 1998 is captured and will be turned over whether or

not instantly deleted. june 28th 2021, he wrote peter e-mailed me congratulating tony for standing up for science. that e-mail fell into the hands of congressmen -- >> martha: we will continue to watch those fascinating hearing that is playing out here, washington, examiner chief correspondent and fox news contributor, we all remember rand paul kind of a fiery back-and-forth with anthony foia -- fauci what are the origin of the covid-19 lardis, whether or not it had anything to do with the ecohealth of the experiments they were doing on data function research, and i we have this deputy to doctor fauci who is e-mails have all been disclosed now that are all about varying things and back at channels and deleting. what you make of all this? >> it is pretty clear they were

not telling the truth, not to the public and not to congress. i think that a given what you're talking about, the whole controversy over data function research and lab leaks versus natural hypotheses about the origin of covid-19, those are really vague consequent just things. and the nih were not telling the truth about them, it to congress. that is a really bad thing. i was say, as it we watch the top of this hearing, the ever testified in a congressional hearing you know you're in trouble when the republican chairman beats up on you and handed over to the democratic member and he beats up on you as well. clearly this is a pretty bipartisan interest and ask you getting the out of the nih. >> martha: we will be watching this very closely, just mentioned that one of these e-mails with francis collins, we intimate here several times and tried to nail him down, how he cannot really document any signs behind this and think about the

impacts of that on people's lives, activities, goals, learning clause, all of these issues. this is not a light issue, these things is still impacting the health and well-being of the mi can people, byron, thank you for staying with us. good to see you as always been back. at the roobroeck national committee says it's number 1 goal is getting former president trump back in the white house, and this leadership change in march, they amassed a huge -- of $141 million for that because. they are also repeatedly running up a robust valid harvesting operation to compete with democrats in 2024, the biden administration now using the federal work-study program to pay college students to help register voters. sixteen republican state attorney general's argue that that move is designed to help

boost turnout in democrat strongholds. that is the controversy that exists around that it. joining me now, laura, great to have you with us, thank you for joining me today. >> is thank you martha, great to be with you. >> martha: great to have a. i want to pull up a quote from this, this is a very interesting program, this is from with her letter, this attorney general, activities like encouraging voter turnout and registering voters has to happen somewhere and that somewhere besides elections. the guidance for colleges and universities to subsidize this activity and potentially swing elections by choosing where to direct these funds with taxpayer money. what you think about this, does it consortium from your side of the equation and trying to get out of the vote for your side onto the republican side?

>> yes, it's totally acceptable, obviously to have joe biden utilizing taxpayer money to keep his party in power, they're going to college campuses martha, these are liberal hotbeds, we know exactly what the ratio is of liberals and conservatives on most college campuses out of their, and this is a problem, not only just for us as a party but as is a country because we have a whole host of people, millions and millions of people in this country who currently have a lot of questions about our electoral -- elegance were a process. people need to understand and believe we have free, fair and transparent elections, things like this go to further a notion that they will not be fair, that is the are very heavily weighed on one side and a yes, it is something we're paying very close attention to, what i will tell you is because they are doing things like this, it is pretty clear that they are very weighed on the democrat side. look at the poll numbers for donald trump right now, look at

the fact that tomorrow he has a rally in the bronx, in the south bronx, last time we saw a republican candidate for president of the united states and the south bronx, it was ronald reagan in 1980 and everybody remembers what happened after that. the awaited because that their candidate is flawed, he is fails he made in people and remember life was a lot better with donald trump and office. >> martha: already, we are breaking the news, i'm sorry we are short on time. i do want to talk to you more about his efforts on both side, is an people have a lot of questions about all of this with regards to voting after the election, all of this, love to continue that conversation. thank you so much. that is the story for this wednesday, what is always the story goes on. we are back here tomorrow at 3:00, your world is up next. [ ♪♪ ]

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